There's this great book out called "Daughters of Men" by Rachel Vassell. It's full of portraits of African American women and their dads. Sanaa Lathan and her dad are in it, Meagan Good and her dad, Tischa Campbell and her dad, you get the picture. Anyway, one of the portraits is of LisaRaye and her father David Ray McCoy, and though she looks really pretty on her picture LisaRaye also looks really sad and old heads from Chicago know why. In 1988 LisaRaye's pops was found shot and killed in the back seat of his Cadillac in a Southside Chicago alley, LisaRaye was 22 years old at the time. Ray McCoy, a savvy Southside millionaire, owned a string of motels and nightclubs and loaned money to hundreds of people who wanted to start their own businesses. The mystery of Ray's murder gripped the city. But as it turned out Ray, who at age 52 was a paraplegic, was killed by his 32 year old live-in girlfriend and her 20 year old brother after they got into an argument over a high electric bill and who should rake the leaves.
Wednesday, January 09, 2008
LisaRaye and Ray McCoy
There's this great book out called "Daughters of Men" by Rachel Vassell. It's full of portraits of African American women and their dads. Sanaa Lathan and her dad are in it, Meagan Good and her dad, Tischa Campbell and her dad, you get the picture. Anyway, one of the portraits is of LisaRaye and her father David Ray McCoy, and though she looks really pretty on her picture LisaRaye also looks really sad and old heads from Chicago know why. In 1988 LisaRaye's pops was found shot and killed in the back seat of his Cadillac in a Southside Chicago alley, LisaRaye was 22 years old at the time. Ray McCoy, a savvy Southside millionaire, owned a string of motels and nightclubs and loaned money to hundreds of people who wanted to start their own businesses. The mystery of Ray's murder gripped the city. But as it turned out Ray, who at age 52 was a paraplegic, was killed by his 32 year old live-in girlfriend and her 20 year old brother after they got into an argument over a high electric bill and who should rake the leaves.
114 comments:
1st beyotches
are u serious did that happen 4 real
I didn't know that LisaRaye came from wealth. 2nd, who murders a millionaire paraplegic over a high electric bill and raking leaves? Clearly he couldn't be raking no damn leaves! And he is a millionaire, the bill was gonna get paid somehow. I mean dayum. That is some shit.
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OH WOW...MY HEART GOES OUT TO HER....EVEN AFTER ALL THIS TIME I KNOW IT IS STILL AN ISSUE SHE DEALS WITH....I HALF LIKE MY DAD AND IF HE DIED LIKE THAT I WOULD BE TOURMENTED FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE
This is the first time I heard this story
^^^^ My first time hearing this story too, so if he owned all that property then, I am sure the family still owes it now... Right?
OMG, I am so sorry to hear this, they didn't have to do him like that over some fucking gardening.. Where's the killers now?
I remember this. He owned all the spots on Stoney Island Ave. like "The Zanzibar Hotel, Sweet Georgia Brown Nightclub and some carwashes" Dude was a serious hustler. He rolled with Flukey Stokes and all the other big time niggas. When he died, all his businesses put up purple and black banners for like a month. It was on the news for about a week. If you ever saw a picture of "Willie the Wimp"; the guy in the Caddilac coffin. This is the era and the dudes her pops used to run with.
**NOTE**
"Willie the Wimp" was not her father. I just gave that info to show the lavishness of that time period.
LisaRaye looks a lot like her father. Nice photo.
I wonder if "Da Brat" is in there too? Ray McCoy is her father as well.
yeah dude was a gangster no doubt. thats how it is here. and they dont have a lot of Black chicago celebs, esp when she came out so that was a big deal when he died. kinda like donda everybody knew.
fyi. Da Brat is her "play" sister.
Yeah their "PLAY" sisters alright if you know what that means.... What do you think they are playing??????? I will give you one GUESS!
The brat and her have the same father different mothers!
she was 22 at the time?!? that makes her, ahum....! shit that makes her OLD as heyell! i thought she was puttin' her self of as thirty something. that bitch damned near 50!
so will this be an episode of american ganstas?( I crack myself up sometimes)but really my heart goes out to her also
@chicagorilla is 100% right...
I'm from the Chi and it's All True and Sweet Georgia Brown was the SPOT for a minute ;-)
Wow,this is so sad and her husband looks a lot like her father.
She's still a trick hoe bag
that is a sad situation that something like this happened. i am a daddys girl and i would break down if something ever happened to my dad! this is a beautiful way to remember him. she looks like a proud daddy's girl!
@anon3:27
yeah and I bet she looks far better and has more than your broke ssa.
What a damn shame.
Ask me she's lookin' kinda ashy.
@it is what it is
How can you half like your father?
Wait...He was killed by a Live in girlfriend??? wasnt her parents married at the time of his death???
yes, she does look sad. those eyes
wow... this is a sad story I never knew that...
You live like a gangsta you die like a gangsta (ie over some bullshit)
IT'S EASY TO HALF LIKE YOUR FATHER, YOU KNOW HE WASN'T SHyT, WAS NEVER THERE FOR YOU BUT NOW THAT HIS ASS IS OLD HE KEEPS IN TOUCH WITH HIS KIDS AND THINKS WE REMEMBER IS EFFIN B'DAY!!!
AND YET WE STILL NEVER DISRESPECT THEIR SORRY, OLD AND NOW REGRETFUL ASS.
I knew she came from money..she talked about this years ago when she was interviewed after Player's Club..you could still see the anger in her..she was still looking for the chick who killed her father
@ 1:42 am.
I'm just saying, I am having a hell of an issue with my daughter and well, I never knew my father, at least I am in the picture, limited, but in the picture. So I get all this attitude similar to your sorry ass for a person. The youth today need to sit the fuck down and get a real education. I helped educate this girl and now she has a career she pisses on me (almost literally).
how did he become a paraplegic?
This is an interesting story. Lisa looks just like her father.
I hope that the people who killed him were prosecuted either by the justice system or the streets.
Killing someone over raking some leaves...that fucked up.
It is rumored that he became a parapalegic from getting shot. Lisa spoke about her dad giving her a gun in an interview because she had to pick up money from the Zanzibar Hotel that was previously mentioned. Lisa's story is common knowledge in chicago especially on the south side, where she is from, I was always suprised that more people outside of the Chi did not know about it. I also wondered what her husband (who is like a president, forgot his official title) thought about her past/upbringing. this story is sorta glamorized. Her father was more of a hustler/business man. 99% of you would not stay at the Zanzibar if your life depended on it. I will say this, McCoy was polite though.
However old she is, she looks good! Brat looks fucked up, compared 2 her, and she's younger, so its obvious Lisa took ALL the good genes..
If you do the math you will clearly see that they said in 1998 10yrs ago she was 22 so how old would she be 10 yrs later?
I thinks she looks older than for 32. Her father was a nice looking man and she does look sad but there could also be other things in her head as well, like am I going to kill my husband for being unfaithful?
Lisa Raye was born in 1966, so that would make her almost 42. She looks that to me. She's beautiful and she looks just like her father. I can't believe stinkin Vivica Fox is one of her best friends though.
Thank you Anony 12:30p - the story isn't that glamorous nor should it be glorified. A hustler is a hustler - millionaire, I think not. Hood rich is more like it...def not a fairy tale life. Age is more like late thirties early forties...
@ anon 4:15
No...he was a millionaire. If you own Zanzibar Motel, Lake Motel, Sweet Georgia Browns, Fleet Limo Service, and 2 car washes...you making some serious cash. Not to mention a quarter share of the Kenwood Liquor Store. If you know anything about wholesale liquor, you would move his decimals over a bit.
excuse me... who should rake the leaves?
Wikipedia states that she was born September 23, 1966... She is 41.
Anon 3:52 said: "If you do the math you will clearly see that they said in 1998 10yrs ago she was 22"
^^^If you do the reading, you will see they state the year of his murder as 1988 NOT 1998, which would make her around 42.
People!!!! This man was a thug, pimp and drug dealer. He did not have millions. Once again Lisa Raye's imagination is off the reality chart. She desperately has tried to make herself seem more than the whore she is and once again her stupidity and ignorance surfaces. Have any of you heard of this "so called" rich Chicago business man prior to this fabricated story Lisa created? Thank goodness for blogs like this where people who know the truth can voice it and not be lied to and tricked by desperate industry people like Lisa Raye. If her father was all that, why is he not ackowledged or honored in the city of Chicago? Because he was a ghetto criminal, who profited off drugs and died in a trash dumpster like the trash he was. Lisa Raye is a tramp with no talent who is a industry jump off that slept her way into everything she has ever done. What type of man raises a whore? Another whore!!!!!! Don't believe the hype people. She is fake, as the weave in her head!!!!!!! Not someone our people should admire or respect...........trash.
he was handsome!
she favors him alot too.
606 AM My goodness you are up early setting records straight. If Lisa Raye wants to re write history - hell its her life. You know parents are our heros they could be effed up and we still see them as something else. One day she will have a kid with her Prince or Prime Minister or whatever the hell they will be calling him and she will be an American Television / Movie star and then she will be the greatest person to them. Either way the girl never been broke and we never seen her look bad a day in life. Now her sister the brat - well they are going to have to fix her story up better than that. They don't look like they have the same father sure it's not the same mother? Is that her play sister she looks like a stray that just came over ever day so they started calling her sister. She has no class or anything if he was her daddy who was her momma? the maid
Fuck what ya'll sayin. That nigga was paid. Flea bag hotels...yes. Shitty clubs...yes. But people from Chicago know those parking lots are full every night. And as far as the hustler claim...of course. That was a different time. Crack had just hit and pimpin was not relogated to the West Side(DO NOT GO TO THE WEST SIDE-THEM NIGGAZ ARE CRAZY) I just think it's interesting how far she made it. She's a bigger hustler than him cause she has no bankable skills outside the bedroom. Damn...I just answered my own question.
Is Chicago's westside really that bad? Worse than Brownsville? Bed Stuy? FT Greene? Red Hook? Make it seem like you cant even go out that motherfucka
It's pretty fucked up over there and them niggas have nothin to lose. The West Side is like a whole different city that I don't even consider to be Chicago. It's like the fucked up, crazy, drunk, violent, uncle you don't tell people about cause they will never meet him unless they visit him in jail. The south-side is a lil more refined and slick on they're hustle. The West side is like ...just go over there and when you get back we can talk cause my car is too nice to be fuckin around with them cats.
*NOTE* I doubt anyone from the West Side of Chicago will reply to this post cause I don't think they have DSL availability. :D
^^^ NO DSL WOW its like that?? Thanks for explaining it. THis man may of had money but luck he didn't have shot and paralyzed and then ... killed he had to be a little shady. Not worth the money all that trouble.
Sounds like her pops was paid...Yes, you can make millions owning those types of businesses. I have a friend like that. When you're doing good and the streets finds out--AND the streets knows your name, you are bound to get hated on via violence or any other kind of senseless foolishness...When you're paid, everybody you know thinks you owe them something, even when you really don't...People will act a fool over some money, drugs don't always have to be apart of the equation either.
no deserves to go like that. Lisaraye on the other hand is a cold hearted, golddigging whore. There is no nicer way to say it.
This happened when I lived in Chicago. At the time I was working with his niece and nephew at Ticketmaster. That was phucked up.
I didn't know LisaRaye was his daughter. Small world.
how is lisa such a hore and tramp and gold digger? Just askin
Damn!...Live in girlfried??? I thought her parents were married at the time.
Oh well, live by the sword, you die by the sword but it is about time for Ms. McCoy to let this sh*t go.
Killed because an argument over a bill and who had to rake leaves? Now that's some serious Nigga shit... couldn't possibly make that up.
i knew that she was a ghetto bitch..have you ever listened to the way she pronounces her words?
sounds like daddy was a hustler.That story is so niggerish.she should have been a little less honest
Why does a parapalegic have to argue over who is raking the leaves? hell,he ain't raking them.Sad Sad
Were the culprits ever caught and punished? Did Chicago authorities ever bother to prosecute?
I can't believe that so many of you were posting negative comments about a deceased person. No one will ever get over the death of their parent. Ray McCoy owned more that hotels and nightclubs. He was part owner of a bank and steel mill. I think all independent business people are hustlers in their own right. Don't hate! He was definitely a millionaire and a kind hearted person. You don't know Lisaraye personally and making statements about her or any other woman that you have not been with as being a hoe is slanderous and you can be tracked on these sites although your name is not identified. I wish she would sue you for slander. How would you feel if some one called your mama, daughter or wife a hoe? Please prove to everyone that she is a hoe or shut up! The same hands that you use to type negative words should be used for praying for forgiveness. Lisaraye did not fabricate the story of her father. Do your research!
Ask anyone in Chicago if she and her father where whores......and the answer would be yes. no one fears voicing the truth....strap a lie detector on that ho, ask her if she was a slut whore and the machine would explode. lmao
Sounds like someone has a little resentment after being rejected. You say you worked with her family at teh time he was killed but didn't know LisaRaye was his daughter yet you knew she was a whore? I'm sure many men pursued her in Chitown and were rejected and what's the first thing a male does when he's crossed? they retaliate and spread rumors. The fact that her father was murdered will always haunt her, my son was killed 2 years ago and I'll search for his killer until I take my last breath. Everyone has a past and I'm sure you wouldn't want people degrading your fathers memory no matter what he did as a living so chill out. LisaRaye keep honoring your father's memory, forget those haters who may or may not know you.
Lisa Raye came from the hood. 79th street! It was a nice hood- I lived there, but it was the hood. Her dad was a drug dealer who seemed to give them a lot of things and took care of her and her family. Revisionist history survives! She always tries to pretend to be cool with who she is-but she has made up a whole "nother" life. Be proud of being from the "9" and surviving. A lot of people didn't!
I think that LisaRaye looks just like her daddy. She is a gorgeous girl. I am sorry to hear that she lost her father like this, but most of ya'll are disrespectful. You are debating whether her dad was a millionaire, hustler, pimp, etc. Who cares!? It was her daddy, all she has is his memory so if you wants to glorify him i think she reserves that right. He could have been superman to her. And to that FOOL talking about the Westside of Chicago, I hope he knows what a hater he is. I am a southside girl, but I got family all over chitown and the southside is just as cutthroat and crazy as any other side. The Westside is still a part of Chicago and i have met some real cool motivated people there....so he is a disgrace to down his city like that. We ALL represent the Chi. Get yo mind right, fool.
lisa raye is a bi sexual whore thats fucking a drug dealer from chicago that owns linen nite club on 79th and stony island rite now in the 2009
So what...Black people you need to wake up and stop demeaning your people. stop being jealous of someones wealth, how they got it or what they did to get it. most of you are just stuck and don't know how to get out the hole your own ass is in..
First of all if you are from chi u know something about this shit. Da brat is not lisa raye's sister. I think brat's mother used to sell drugs for lisa's dad. Yes, Lisa's dad did get killed by his live in girlfriend who was on crack. The story goes that she wanted more than the 1,000 dollars a week allowance that he was giving her because she was on crack and supporting her and her brother's habit so they set lisa's father up in a robbery that went bad!
wow the things that people are saying about Ray. Yeah i call him ray cause i personally knew him. my father owned that car lot on stoney right before you get to 79th st. and ray always help him out when he need money, and he use to pay our rent every month when we didnt have it too. Yes he was in a wheel chair cause somebody tried to rob him and shot him. and yes his live in girl friend sheila and her brother killed him. the dumb motherfuckers put him in the back of his cadi and tried to park it in the back of his office but missed it by one block. she got out of jail in the 90's but went back in for something else. I love ray and yes he was a millionaire, so of course he had some cut throat ways, but he also was very nice. i was only like 5 or 6 when he died but i remember him like yesterday. and hell no the brat is not his daughter. he the only nigga i ever seen in a wheel chair that carried a bag of money on his lap at all times. He help take care of my family when my father went to jail. i will never forget him.
You people are cold hearted and down right ignorant. How dare you call people the type of names that you called Lisa Raye. She is somebody's mother, daughter and sister...how would you like for someone to call a loved one of yours those names...It's so sad we treat each other like this!!!
Truth is most people didnt know Lisa way Ray McCoys daughter cause I lived down the steet from Ray McCoy in Pill Hill which is where his home was (it took up an entire block mostly landscaping) but Lisa did "not" live with her father in that house, assuming she lived with her mother whom he was "not" married to at the time of his demise. The storys are all true surrounding his death.
I know for certain that DaBrat is not LisaRaye's sister, however, she does have two sisters. that she doesn't ever mention. WONDER WHY? I bet no one knows that her father, Ray, was from Mississippi. Lisa, don't forget where you came from.
Who cares where she came from. The most important thing with this story is that a man was killed and a young girl lost her father...
Her Father was killed in a set up by his girlfriend. He was married to her Mom but now living together. He had a younger girlfriend and they had a baby daughter together. He had previously been shot in a robbery and was in a wheel chair. His girlfriend let her brother and her real man know Ray's routine and that he would have cash..they tried to rob him but Ray was always packed and he resisted. Ray McCoy was killed and all 3 people involved were arrested..tried and convicted..Lisaraye and Da Brat are just good friends from Chicago..that sister stuff is made up...Lisaraye has a little sister & that childs Mom is the one who set up her Dad
One thing is for sure, there are some haters here...but Chicago is known to be Home of the Haters...sad...that's why we as black people will forever be STUCK! To busy in other people's business, to interested in what other people say & do. Everybody has bones & skeltons in their closets, and I bet you don't air them like you expect Lisa to??? Yeah, she may have fucked here was to (what you consider) the top, she may still be a trick and/or bisexual, no...DaBrat is not here "real" sister, and yes, her father was a hustla/dope dealer/businessman...but SO WHAT! Her life...her story. Get your own & let us post the "truth" about you!!!
man I just read all yall comments about Lisa Ray HATERS!!!!
5/11/2010:Good morning after reading these posts I am very angry to say the least. I am from the south and I can not phantom anyone downing a human being so hard. Dam-yum some of you act like she took your mamas only means of survival and she dared him to take care of you and your family, I mean like she personally ripped your lives apart. How can you give a person this much power to make you hate them so. My father was "THE MAN" where I came from (in his day) and to me and to others he was a millionaire (in his day). He was a crude business man but he was fair and My Daddy and to this day no matter what he did or how much I wished he was not my daddy (some of us have had those days) you can not take away from me the joy he put into my life. He loved his family first and foremost (all of his families)I am the oldest of 15,I have brothers and sisters to this day that I have heard about but have never seen it is not their fault our father was a Rolling Stone(where ever he laid his hat was his home) and their mothers were vulnerable and didn't put their foot down to him. I am delighted when I meet another sibling and I can not be upset that their mother is one of the women that my dad left us for weeks and months at a time for. I'm glad I watched my father for the time I had with him and that he was active in my life, it taught me to have values and not to partake in drugs and shady dealings and to be proud of my family and community. The Gentlemen "back in the day or of that time" did what they knew how to do at the time. I truly believe if they knew better they would have done better and if they had someone strong in their corner's/lives that knew the value of hard work and not have had to hear their parents tell them their hard life stories about how they had to migrate from the deep south just to get ahead then maybe we would have had better fathers and more Black leaders by now, who knows. I have been told that a man will be a man but by whos definition? Now that I know better I expect better from everyone in my circle. With that said I am sad to admit that my father never learned his lesson and to this day is suffering and wallowing in his own self pity he has children that range from ages 42 to 16 he has 30 grandchildren and 3 great grand children. But never the less he is still Our Father and loved dearly from afar. I pray for him every day and wish him well that's about all we can do at this point for a person that is stuck with the guilt that he has imposed on himself because of the choices that he has made in his life. They do affect us at the time as kids but we grow up and learn from them and move on without blaming others I hope. It is a struggle at times but I will not give the devil the power to make me hate and demean others for 1 min of glory that it would surely bring to me. The devil is a lie. The Lord said joy comes in the Morning and I can not wait to wake up every morning.
Mr. Miller's Daughter
I grew up near 79th Drexel, and with older siblings who hung out at Sweet Georgia Browns on 90 something and Stony Island, and the CopperBox, and joints like that. So I heard all about Ray McCoy, Fluckie, Shorty G, and the rest of the big timers. First of all, you clown ass niggas from Chi get on my damn nerve hating so damn much. Chicago is the fuckin "Hating Capital". Ya'll clowns are forever hating on the few people that become celebrities from our town. Every other city shows their peeps mad love, regardless of how flawed they were from the hood. And the tripped out part is, know matter how messed up these other celebrities are, their peeps never put them out there like ya'll fake ass Chicagoans. Who cares if she slept with your daddy to get to the top...hell, a lot of chicks are sleeping with goof balls like you and getting nothing. I remember her going with Kenji, her daughter's dad. And she probably had multiple other dudes occupying her space...But who gives a fuck?? I swear I can't stand clowns like you talking all this fuck-shit about other people from Chi. I'll bet if your name was revealed, her dad would probably still have enough pull, even after being dead for over twenty years, to have your ass dealt with. Now that's how gangstas in Chi do it, even from the grave. So for those of you reading all of these comments, especially from the so-called Chicagoans, disregard goofy-ass clowns that are feeding you all of this garbage. I thought the damn blog was to discuss her father's murder, or something like that. I'm sure it wasn't for straight up losers to vent about some shit that no one cares about. Nobody said that Lisa Raye was their damn shero, so the comment about she ain't nobody to look up to made no sense. And yea, her father was what he was, but do you really feel vindicated by expressing that he died like the trash he was? Are you fucking stupid? This is the dumbest shit I've ever heard. You are probably a gump anyway that wish that you had a little gangsterism in you. I have a lot of my hommies that have been killed in the streets, hell, niggas done met them at their cribs to take them out, and yes I was extremely hurt behind it. But the truth of the matter is, according to my ex, that if someone comes to kill you, it is because you did something, owed some money, or they simply are trying to rob you, and the robbery goes bad. Other than that, I can stand on the corner all day, and nothing will happen to me. So, because of one of those reasons listed above, Ray McCoy was killed. Was it surprising? No. But does he deserve to be slandered by a goof-ball? No. You are just way over the top, trying to be seen, like a typical goof-ball. So, again I say to you all not from Chi, Chi-town has turned out so many great people/celebrities, all of whom deserve to be respected, just for making it out of the hood, if nothing else. Don't let the haters, who probably still living in their mommas basement, tarnish how you feel about anyone. Trust, they are miserable as hell, and want to cast their cloud over anyone vulnerable to listen to their clown-asses. So, hoe, whore, slut, trick, or whatever, the reality is, old girl has seen more things, even dicks as you say, been more places, even the first lady of a Caribean Island, has more paper, than the Super Clowns of Chi-town who wishes to get noticed writing these goofy-ass comments on this blogs. You probably wish your dick was good enough to get you to the top. lmao. Anyway, I can't believe that this clown drug me in to writing on this blog. Wow, that's just a Real Chi-Town Chick happy that some of us have made it out the hood by any means necessary. And if you are wondering, I have a career, making over $100,000 a year, and have made it out the hood myself. So, I'm definitely not a hater, but a congratulator I am for my Black Sisters!! Gone Girl continue to do you!!
Word Chi-town. I'm from Dc by way of Pa...never been to Chicago bur after reading this post I definitely have come to the conclusion that its like crabs in a barrel for blacks and that's so incredibly sad. The white man has very little to do now a days besides watch us self destruct...get it together y'all, please
OMG! R U SERIOUS. Y R there so many haters especially those who are hating on LISA RAYE. Be serious you make yaself look like an ass. No matter what her background is/was or whatever she doing her thang NOW and all ya'll can do is sit yo sorry ass on blog and talk about this women. It sound like jealousy to me. IDIOT, UGH!
Wow!. The last person comment was on point...Wake up blacks folks and stop hating. White folks have been getting over by any mean necessary to make it for years(Think about how Reno and Las Vegas got started. Look where they are and how we are still sitting around waiting for hand outs.. I say, Go head Lisa Raye, do your thang...You made it. To Lisa Raye's dad.. Rest in Peace
did he own a club called DeJois?
Lord have mercy on your soul. for some of you who have passed judgement on Lisa raye a person
that you dont even know. I am a nurse in the healthcare field and years ago in the 1990's
I use to work with flukey stokes daughter and also Jeff fort daughter and i found both of them to be smart, young, articulate and professional.And just because ones father was out there back in the day, doin his thing, and
being successful in his businesss ventures, doesnt give yall the right to pass judgement on the on the children.And also if Lisa raye wants to call the brat her sister whether she be or not, thats Lisa rayes business. Evidentally she must love the girl, because she calls her sister, and that again is Lisa raye and the brats business. Is it it so hard for people to love ? why be jealous of people you dont even know, thats what it boils down to.Why do people think Lisa raye is a whore and a slut.is it just because you saw her in the movie Players Club playing the role of a stripper. this is not real life people, its only acting a particular part.Stop judging people you dont even know, and get a life.
i was just watching the history channel, where they talked about the klu klux klan and they murdered not only poor blacks, but the white and black civil rights workers that fought for the cause. and how when they caught the perpetrators who was doing the lynching, beating, and hanging of blacks, but when they went before all male white jury, was found not guilty and let go. how absurd. And what im trying to say is to take a look at our history, of what a lot of black went thru in the 18 and 1900's- murders- predgudice-hanging- beatings-
and burning down our churches, to kidnapping and raping our people. And seeing that all this happen to us and our ancestors, then why is there so hate for your own kind. you need to love each other, support each other, and stop putting people down, whatever race they are, and love yourself, because if you cant love yourself, then how can you love others. God help you and god speed.
Regardless of where this woman has come from (though obviously proud)she evidently knows to where she is going,step back, relax, tend to what should be your business, and though you may not agree with LisaRaye and her choices, respect her and her choices. We tend too at times spew others inadequacies from our mouths because in our hearts we feel inadequate. We don't have to like one the other, we do though have to respect one another. Ms Raye, you are a beautiful black woman, loving your child, respecting your mom, dreaming and pursuing for self, much love and respect. Another Black Woman, Tina
I lived in that area @ that time it was a whole lot better then than now. At that that time u can walk down the street & not get shot people spoke. It was very decent.
Anon.....well folks you all have valid points but I think i will lean on the side that if yr parent dies from any cause other than a natural one commanded by God then it will be a thorn in your side till the say u die and some,I lost my pops via Gods command n 6 yrs l8r I still greave..so be Thankful for what we all have time is soooo short we don't have much time with the ones we love and admire so Please make the most of it. I can't stress this enough.
Live life to the fullest and have no regrets...
Negative voices breathes shallow minds..Education and the mind is a terrible thing 2 waste
Hatred are gonna hate because they wish they could have what the folks their hating on have or had.....so personally I feel bad for them because they are miserable. But as all u hatred see yall ain't Stoppin nothin Lisa Rate still got that dough back then and today! And lookin betta than eva
This whole post is crazy. I googled LisaRyaes father after learning from her tv show that he had been shot and killed. For the longest time I thought he was still living and didn't realize that he had died such a horrible death. Some of the comments on here are insane to say the least. So many negative unneccesary commetns is what they are. Regardless of how he lived his lfe the man was already in a wheel chair and to shoot him in cold blood over some garbage is ridiculous. and the comments about the south side being so much better than the west side obviously has not traveled doutside of their comfort zone. At the present time the south side is looking miore like a death trap everyday. kids getting killed outsode of churches.. being beaten to death while being taped...senseless violence but the south side is better I think not. I need for folks to start stating facts and not what they think or feel is the truth.
I have read most of the post and I'm amazed at the truth and opinions expressed herein...But I can say with conviction...it is important for the truth to be told, and when it is expressed others should not just accept that person's thought or opinion. JUST REMEMBER ITS THEIR BELIEF OR OPINION...ITS NOTHING TO GET ANGRY ABOUT.
Now I do agree with the sista'S and brothers who believe Lisa Raye should not be judged by her fathers acts and behavior. But I do have to say that Lisa Raye should have thought about this before she allowed her publistist to create such talking points regarding her ALLEGED Millionaire father.
ALSO, Can each of you take the time to think about the number of black indivuduals (adults and children) who died because of drugs, drug crimes and etc.? WELL YOU HOLYIER-THAN-THOU INDIVIDUALS SHOULD THINK TWICE BEFORE YOU GLORIFY THAT TYPE OF BUSINESSMEN.
As for Lisa Raye or any of her relatives filing a law suit against anyone on these blogs for telling the truth or expressing their opinion...I say to them don't waste your time.
I also say they should be careful cause they (Lisa Raye and family) may well be a part of a knowing criminal conspiracy, IF THE TRUTH IS EXPOSED IN A COURT OF LAW.
BUT MOST IMPORTANT LISA RAYE SHOULD ALSO SEEK LEGAL COUNSEL REGARDING HER TESTIMONY UNDER OATH IN THE TURKS AND CAICOS ISLAND COMMISSION HEARING REGARDING HER EXPENDITURES DURING HER RELATIONSHIP WITH AND MARRIAGE TO MR. MICHAEL MISSICK THE PREMIER OF TURKS & CAICOS ISLAND.
HER $35 THOUSAND DOLLARS PER WEEK SALARY FOR THE SIT COM WITH WILL AND JADA DOES NOT COMPORT WITH HER GROSS EXPENDITURES DURING THAT TIME. IT CAN BE A RED HERRING AT A LATER TIME. I HOPE SHE REALIZE THAT IRS PLAY A VERY IMPORTANT ROLE WHEN AN INDIVIDUAL RECEIVING SUCH INCOME WITHOUT HAVING REPORTED IT.
JUST SAYIN!
ACCURACY IN FACTS AT YOUR SERVICE
DCNORM
Lisaraye is a beautiful woman with mediocre talent at best. The way her father made his money isn't her responsibility. Come on chitown and show some respect for Mr Mccoy. He was successful at business and that alone should be admired. For the most part we all know at that street level drugs would be nvolved unfortunately. But that's her old man not her. Rest in peace.
go LisaRaye, continue to do you girl and RIP Mr. McCoy. Being from the south side and knowing Lisa, she will only read these post and brush her shoulder off and keep it moving!!! See you at the Chosen Few Picnic this year girl! Continues Success to you mommy!!!
I am FLOORED! How small of you. As a professional woman form the Southside of Chicago who has intimate knowledge of some of the hood-made millionaires like Ray McCoy, I have to say that these character assassinations against LisaRaye are unprovoked and unwarranted. How can she be held accountable for whatever business dealings in which her father was involved? Why is she being persecuted because he got out there and made it happen for her? And why on Earth would anyone suggest that the manner of his death was just? Who gets on a blog to murder-mouth someone they probably don't know? You have demeaned her and belittled her talent, so if nothing else, applaud her work ethic. And who is itemizing her expenditures and comparing it to some perceived amount that they've determined was her income? This is insane. Spend less time tearing that sister down and building yourself up and you'll find yourself equally repulsed by these kinds of attacks, if not on the receiving end of them.
I'm glad to see there are still some decent people in the world who will speak up in defense of others! What does a person gain by trying to tear down another? It doesn't matter if it's a lie or the truth...how better off are you for spreading hate?
i used to go to sweet georgia browns her dads club. he was COOL! he use to come thru n his wheel chair. we all no what was up with him.
RIP Mr. MCCOY. Love you LisaRaye!
some of these posts are wild i didnt know her dad was a hustler now you know why her mentality about being spoiled and not dating a man without money and she dont know what its like to be broke thats crazy to me i would have kept that to myself. Now i understand why she cant keep a man or a husband for that matter.
I'm sitting here cracking up from reading all this bullshit on here. I personally know Lisa and was with her when we got the call about her fathers death. First of all, Ray started his business from money he recieved as an Ambulance chaser (following ambulances around for insurance puposes with faulty claims)... it did expand from there to owning nite clubs, motels, banks and many other things. Back in those days... money hung out with money. It didnt really matter how you made it. Flukey Stokes and Ray McCoy was not buddies...lol... Ray did not sell drugs (even though he knew all the major ones).... they hung out at his nite clubs. LisaRaye was introduced to Kenji (her daughters father and drug dealer) by another local Drug Kingpin know as Mike Dawg. Mike and Ray were really close so it made people assume they had some kind of illeagal connection... which they didnt. Ray did a whole lot for the community. Yes, he was killed by his girlfriend and her brother during a robbery that went bad. She did time and went back for killing her next botfriend years later. No doubt Ray was a 100% millinaire from all his accomplishments. Lisa was the apple of his eye. Funny now because alot those people (Kenji, Mike Dawg,etc)survived those mean streets of Chicago and are doing well now with their life.... leagally!!
I LIVED IN THE CHI ALL MY LIFE. MOSTLY ON THE WEST SIDE THEN ON 87 STREET. DUDE WAS THET REAL MCCOY AND WHO EVER GOT A BAD THING TO SAY BOUT SOMEONE WHO IS A HUSTLER WHO GOT SOME HOTELS AND LITTLE STORES AND SOME BIG BUCKS THEN KISS MY @SS YOU GOT NOTHING TO SAY ABOUT WALMART OF MCDUMMIES BURGERKING YEA THAT BROTHER MADE SOME MONEY THEN TWO SWINE @SS PEOPLE WHO WAS LEACHING OFF HIM KILLED HIM, YEA WE JUST LIKE MONKEYS IN A BARREL WE CAN'T GET OUT BECAUSE AS SOON AS ONE OF US GET TO THE RIM HERE COMES ONE OF YOU LEACHS OR HATERS PULLING US BACK DOWN. THAT SISTER MADE IT AND I DON'T THINK SHE HAD TO SLEEP WITH ANYONE TO GET THERE BUT IF BY CHANCE SHE DID THANK GOD SHE SLEEP WITH THE RIGHT ONES CAUSE SHE GOT HER PAPER. HELL SOME OF YOU BROKE @SS HOES THAT ARE ON HERE RIGHT NOW ARE OUT THERE @#CKING FOR CHESSEBURGERS AND HAVING BABIES FOR FREE GETTING A WELFARE CHECK.
LISA FATHER HELPED ALOT OF PEOPLE AND SHE HAS TO ,THERE ARE NO HILTON HOTELS THERE IN THE HOOD, HE GOT MONEY AND DIDN'T RUN OFF TO THE WHITE HILLS HE SYAYED RIGHT THERE LETS SEE IF YOU CAN GET JAYZ OR PUFFY PUNK @SS TO OPEN A CLUB UP IN THE HOOD, WAKE UP BE HAPPY WHEN ONE OF US MAKE SHOW SOME LOVE SO WHEN YOU MAKE IT MAYBE WE'LL SHOW YOU SOME LOVE. BIG ROB AT MONSTAFACTORY3@MSN.COM
To all the judgers,You may be bitter if: you're always sarcastic towards the dreams and goals of others...you're jealous or envious of someone else...you hate someone who has not harmed you...the mention of a certain person affects your countenance...do you see yourselves as people who are happy of LisaRaye's success or just bitter people...To LisaRaye, Forgive those who hurt you and do not seek revenge, for vengeance is mine saith the Lords. You go on and "do YOU" LisaRaye, and do not concern yourself with small mindedness. Even though I don't know you, you are a human being who deserves to be respected as just that, a human being.
Wow there are so many comments about, Lisa and her dad (r.i.p.) The reported story is that Ray and his wife never divorced. Ray found out that he had cancer and was reconciling with this wife for what could be his last days. His girlfriend being afraid that she would be left with zilch, along with her brother killed Ray one night when he was parking his car. The staged the scene to make it look like a robbery but the all clues led back to the brother. When he saw that his sister was going to let him take the blame, he started singing like a bird. It has always been speculated that Ray led an illegal lifestyle because as Blacks, we sometimes have a hard time believing good about each other (that is sad). Ray was shot many years ago which led to a lawsuit leaving him paraplegic and wealthy. He invested his money opened some businesses and stacked his paper. Chicago like many other cities has good and bad, in the night life you might run acroos both, this does not make you the devil. He got along with people, he was always polite and he was a serious gentleman. I remember shortly after his passing, Lisa had a hard time keeping it together. It is true that having her daughter saved her life. I too am from Chicago and have no hate for her or any of my other Chicago family members. I wish her the stars because she is not asking for handouts, she is trying to work for hers. I can say this too, Lisa has always been who she is, she is not putting on for cameras. That girl on TV is the same girl that walked the Chicago streets. She knows when to dress up and how to dress down. Her daddy loved her more than life itself and he made certain that she always looked beautiful. Some people might not like it, but so far she hasn't lied about that.
To Lisa Ray You are the real McCoy.. and a real Diva...
I am surprise to know Lisa Ray was Ray McCoys daughter. I lived on Fulton next to Lucy Flower HS. The McCoys lived on St Loius. How he became rich is a mystery. But I was friends with little Ray and Ervin in the 60,s as a teenager.
When I was little living on the west side the same McCoy family lived on Carrol Street.I am sure that Ray McCoy was their uncle or their father because they were all very fair skinned.One day he was gone,he may have been shot in a robery or something.Lisa had to b e the youngest child back then. Congrtulationss on her sucess. That was around 1968-69.She would have been around 3 years old. But I am sure it,s no quoincidence.
A woman is born with special gifts. If she uses them correctly she may obtain fame and fortune.If she uses her gifts incorrectly she may obtain pain and suffering.Most women experience the last option. Pain and suffering. Lisa Ray has proven she has brains and beauty. Good for her,all too often men mess women up,and then belittle them.When a woman has her own money and controls her life men become just objects.Keep doing your thing Lisa Ray you have my complete respect. Grand Madem
IGNORANCE EQUAL HATRED THATS WHY DUDE WAS HATING HE HATES ANYONE BIGGER THAN HIM. DONT HATE ON THE WESTSIDE CUZ THE WEST IS LIKE MCCOY IT GOT HUSTLE IN IT ALL DAY LONG LISARAYE DOIN HER THANG KEEP IT MOVING
my grandad was telling me the story he knew her dad personaly and her dad was that dude he sold drugs and his girlfriend brother was getting drugs from him idk what happen but a long story short he got killed it was drug related
Who gives a FUCK ??? Joliet in tha House !
So much jealousy on this blog. She said her dad was a millionaire. But she didn't say that he did it all honestly. Seriously people, there are a lot of mainstream millionaires who got where they are dishonestly. The flip side to the equation is that sometimes we die by that which we help create so why be appalled at the mention of it. The McCoys were and are a beautiful family.
It is such a shame that some black people feel the need to pull other black people down. Does it really matter what her father did??? Does it matter in the end??? She has made a name for herself - money for herself - a life for herself. Show some class and support growth! The nasty comments and she is laughing all the way to the bank. Get a life and learn how to support one another - its discusting.
I Loved them all, worked at Sweet Georgia Brown both locations and they were good people, I'm proud of Lisa and sorry they killed her dad. Lisa keep doing you.
Nobody should have to go through that! That was a terrible death! Lisa is hurt, and you can feel it in her throat when she talks about it! But with all of this going on, where are "all" the real McCoy's now? And does Lisa's have "legitimate" brothers and sisters who are the real McCoy's by her father David? Where do they all live? It just sounds like her dad got around! And I have reason to believe Lisa is not the only REAL McCoy!
Hustler, yes, Businessman, yes, black man in the seventies & eighties doing things that most blacks globally couldn't imagine doing financially, how do i know, cause i knew ray, did business with him. brother speaking bout his dad's car-lot, i remember your dad, brought a Porsche 944 from your dad, brother speaking on ray n flukie / Big Dollar Bill, u are right, hustled with those guys. really won't get deep into this, cause its Chicago history and if you don't know the history that just means youre too young n only know lisa from movies/tv hollywood lisa raye or u just ain't from the windy city. back in the day when coke was real certain individuals made more money from its profits weekly than the president makes in his whole term. Ray was smart like quite a few powerhouses who controlled the city, and yes, a millionaire, back then we cared nothing bout being famous, hood-rich is what we would've been considered today now that Negroes have millions in a common grace, but back then, we were just rich even in a white-man's market. all the negative comments are dis-respectful to her n him(r.i.p.) cause u are speaking ill on him who you don't know... hell, im sure most don't even know lisa lmao, but whatever she's doing in her life today has nothing to do with him. no one is perfect, but David was still a good man who was robbed of his life by someone he trusted his life with & was good to, she just got greedy n wanted it all
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