Tuesday, November 13, 2007
Dr. Jan Adams Not Board Certified
Dr. Jan Adams, the doctor who performed Dr. Donda West's tummy tuck and breast reduction, is not certified by the American Board of Plastic Surgery and he's been arrested for several DUIs. They say it took Dr. Adams 8 hours to perform Kanye's mama surgery when it only should have taken 4, an early indication that something had gone horribly wrong. But instead of sending Donda West to a recovery center, Dr. Adams sent her home. And although 911 was called, they say Kanye's mama was dead by the time the paramedics arrived. Dr. Adams, who's made appearances on Oprah Winfrey and the Discovery Channel's "Plastic Surgery: Before and After", says Donda West may have died from heart attack, pulmonary embolism or massive vomiting but maintains he's done nothing wrong.
56 comments:
I watch Plastic Surgery Before and After and I recognize that guy. He's the narrarator who talks like he knows all...I'm so sorry this happened. What a tragedy. WOW.
I know I shouldn't be blaming the victim, but um er ah.....
1. Why didn't she research his credentials?
2. Why is someone her age having cosmetic surgery?
3. Why didn't she disclose all of her medical info when the previous doctor suggested clearance?
Again, just asking. As sad as this may be, I think this is a perfect example of how trying to cut corners is not a good idea when going under the knife.
By the way... What was wrong with her before? She looked just fine to me. I wonder why she thought she needed plastic surgery in the first place.
This dude looks guilty... WTF
nothing wrong my azz! she was 58 for gods sake! what tests were done? i hope Kanye goes hard at this dude and make him answer for kicking the rock from under his feet like this by being neglegent!
i hope this is not true, this is getting crazy. there are lot of surgery doctors out there worst then him. The question is why would a 58 y.o. women feel that she can handle this kind of surgery, she knew her condition. Other doctors said no, but she kept looking until she found someone. if you don't care about yourself, what makes you think someone else is. Who was she trying to look cute for at 58. I just hate to see it turn out this way.
not to worry.. it'll all come out after the autopsy... we'll know if it was his fault or not.. thats a mess.. I dunno how people take it so lightly allowing anyone to cut them open w/o checking their credentials.. and what about the people who are claiming to be dr's, professionals.. wheres ur conscience????
1:58pm... were you there with Dr. West as she consulted "other doctors"? The problem is that people make these comments, anonymously, blog, public eye or otherwise not knowing shit about the merits of this case. Yall don't know shit about her medical conditions, her reasons for wanting PS, yall don't know shit. Peace and blassing be upon Dr. West's soul. How disrespectful yall simple minded ass fucks are! It enrages me to to read some of these comments. This was someone's mother. Do any of you know how thi smust be for Kanye? Not to mention she was a DOCTOR who held the chairman of the English Department position at a Chicago University for many years. This is no "off the beaten path" woman. Everyone is tryin to make her out to be this middle aged woman with a self-esteem issue.Assuming that she was "tryna look cute". Just know that Karma is real... even in blogs. How dare yall utter such vile words and comments with completely lack substance and facts. Govern yourselves accordingly.
I have to agree with "how u doin"
I totally didn't understand why Dr. West didn't check on this man's credentials. Plus the fact that Dr. Anoo(whatever) told her he wouldn't do the surgery due to the fact that she had a heart problem. Why didn't she take that into concideration!?!?!?!?!?!
Prayers and Blessing to the West family!!!
...2:19
...damn takin' it a lil bit personally there, arent you mama! People can talk shit, all you spose to do is to provide your counter argument. While I agree with you, you do sound like you prolly had a doctor fuck up one of your titties one time. Or maybe your titties is just lopsided and you tired of people calling you 1.5.
2:22pm...
Again, who says that she didn't? Yall talk like yall was there. What did the atopsy report say? where are the medical notes corroborating her medical condition? Where are the notes that substantiate the first doctors opinion? None of yall were the fuck there.. People, have some humanity and just fuckin stop it! Yall clearly are in no position to do anything but make yourselves look like the asses yall are assumning that this woman did not do her "due diligence"... all of the skeletons in this "dr's" closet are now coming out because this is a high profile case, but this information is not readily available. This man was a expert guest on Oprah, had his own show on Discovery Channel, performed other "high profile" surgeies... there were no red flags regarding his credibility. ( if yall did some fuckin research you would know this. The facts that he had DUI's and some judgements against him in the past has no bearing on anything. many doctors have medical malpractice suits pending, etc. this is not neccesarily indicative of a "bad doctor".
2.19
you need to shut the hell up and take a chill pill. you the one sound like you was there. The women was clearly not over weight, so any women at 58 that needs a tummy tuck has a low self esteem. you think because she kanye's mother she couldn't have had a low self esteem. Everybody on here has a lot of sympathy for kanye and his loss. this man that they accusing has a life to live to, so i'm not going to jump on him because the media said he was wrong. innocent until proven guilty, but at the same time she/ we have a responsibility to take care of our health. so if you can't handle what people are saying you should get off the blogs.
2:29pm you can suck my asshole bitch! How's that!
I never purported to be there, however I did comment on all yall ignorant, inhumane ass people on here who have all the facts and are already making judgments about this woman. Wanting a tummy tuck does not mean she has low self esteem. If you believe this then you are more of neanderthal than I initially thought. Secondly, I never said ANYTHING about this doctor... again because I do not have all the facts as they are not availble yet. My comments were directed at people who at first sniff, are already convinced that his mother caused her own death and why. Again, yall don't knwo shit and you incriminate yourselves further by not acknowledging the facts that none of us no shit. Send his family prayers.. not your fuckin comments about what Dr. West shoulda, coulda woulda did. if you cant understand and respect that 2:29, then proceed with suckin my asshole!
Also much is being made of this mans credential and That Bitch talking bout the man was arrested for DUI like that shit has shit to do with nuffin. By all accounts this man has had a legitimate practice for a long time. And as far as the DUI unless he ridin down the freeway with a fifth of yak in one hand and a scalpel in another while doing the surgery then his DUI's are irrelevant.
I know we always try to find someone to blame...but maybe, just maybe we should just celebrate this womans life and not sully her death with witch hunts. By all accounts she did a good job with Ye and lest we forget she was a professional woman, highly educated and a college professor to boot. Much about her should be admired...why're we losing focus already? I know its still early and other shit may come up to prove me wrong, but still, damn!!
BTW, Bitch...even though you taking sides on this one...I'd still hit. I bet you got big titties! (-:
OMG!!! I like really respected him and all. I loved him on discovery and i would try to watch when he was on. DAMN!! Just when things seem to be going well for one of us, it somehow gets fucked up!! My heart goes out to Kanye and his family. I don't know what I would do if I lost my momma.
2:37pm Thank you! Someone intellgent that can differentiate between relavant arguments has spoken!
Just because someone appears on Oprah doesn't mean they are qualified to operate on you.
Also, what happened to aging gracefully?
2.36pm LISTEN TO YOURSELF! You are coming on here and calling people ignorant, but your the one cussing and swearing like a sailor, getting your panties/briefs in a twist.
At this moment in time it might not be a popular thing to say, but cosmetic surgery in most cases isn't a necessity, its about vanity. Donda West didn't have to die like this it could have been avoided. And thats the saddest thing of all.
NEVER, EVER GO TO ANY DOCTOR WHO DOES TELEVISION SHOWS OR WHO ADVERTISES.
Wow, it appears that she died an unecessary death. Surgery is so serious. After years of suffering, I elected to have surgery and it was the scariest thing I've ever done. By the grace of God, I'm here today and I'm happy I did it but, I could have died on the operating table or later due to complications.
Now due to the surgery and aging, my body is less than perfect but, so it's ok, I have my life and that's what's important.
When I was preparing for surgery, I went on-line and checked my surgeon's credentials but I didn't even think about my checking out the anesthesiologist. Hell, I didn't even know who it was going to be.
I'm just saying, I'm sure Ms West didn't just pick someone out of the phone book. The doctor is highly visable and probably highly regarded in his industry. So I'm sure she trusted him. Maybe it was her body that betrayed her, not her doctor.
this is so sad, sometimes when a close one dies it doesn't hit you right a way. I will definetely have him in my prayers.
This dude has 2 DUI's damn a drunk surgeon
real quick as most of what I wanna say has already been said, to one degree or another. I had overian cancer and had to have surgey. Over 14 pounds of drbris (tumors, etc.) removed from my stomach. As a result, I needed a FULL tummy tuck (which wraps around my waist to include all teh love handles) because of all the excess skin. Now I am not saying that thi swas her case, because its my own. but my surgically induced flat stomach was not about vanity. we need to stop generalizing and simplifying things without knowing ALL the facts.
I dont think a tuck and titties was life threatening for her,,,especially if other docs turned her down
2:29 I agree with wat you are sayiing I'm sure dr. west was smart enough to make the decision of going to him. the point is surgery is risky period star jones almost die having the gastoric bypass. Many time celebrities like to move at a fast past as all of us do , but sometimes we need to exercise patience. e.g. Aaliyah if she would have exercised patience she would be here today. God rest both of their souls.
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real quick as most of what I wanna say has already been said, to one degree or another. I had overian cancer and had to have surgey. Over 14 pounds of drbris (tumors, etc.) removed from my stomach. As a result, I needed a FULL tummy tuck (which wraps around my waist to include all teh love handles) because of all the excess skin. Now I am not saying that thi swas her case, because its my own. but my surgically induced flat stomach was not about vanity. we need to stop generalizing and simplifying things without knowing ALL the facts.
4:25 PM
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Your situation is a perfect example of cosmetic surgery being very useful. You had a life threatening disease and HAD to have surgery to save your life. And the cosmetic surgery came in handy to fix your abdominal area after the life-saving surgery. Your cosmetic surgery had NOTHING to do with vanity. From the reports so far concerning Dr. West's death, however, that isn't the case.
Eight hours is a very long time to be under general anesthesia without being in a hospital setting where your vital signs can be closely monitored. This is so tragic.
Support "Black Owned" my narrow ass.
I lived in SouthEast DC and tried to "keep it in the hood" but learned my lesson real quick.
1. Getting you shirt from the Cleaners in the am before work? Store says they open at 7:30am but they don't until 9:00
2. Buy groceries from the corner bodega? Meat is brown & flies buzzing. Canned foods are discolored & dusty.
Black folk should stick to what they do best. Only reliable black business in da hood is the Barber Shop when them dudes aint talking more than they cutting.
star jones almost died having a breast lift operation, not gastric bypass.
It will all come out in the wash. This is tragic for Dr. West and her family and tragic for Dr. Adams as well. You do not have to be board certified, many physicians are not. Secondly, getting DUIs does not mean you are not a skilled, competent professional. Finally, people die in surgery OFTEN. It does not mean the surgeon did anything wrong. Death does not always mean malpractice. I pray both families involved will endure this storm.
NOT board certified? Are we sure of this? HOw'd he get that TV show?
Seriously, I love Plastic Surgery: Before and After on the Disc. Health channel, but I somehow NEVER liked Jan Adams. He seemed too smug and egotistical to me, just not very nice.
I know lots of plastic surgeons have those characteristics, but this is 1 guy I disliked. (Seen his work too, he truly isn't great AT ALL)
That said, I found myself googling him over the summer to see if he were married (or gay). Don't know the details of Ms. west's pasing, but clearly Dr. Adams's past has come to light to haunt him. TMZ's already descended on his azz like vultures.
my apologies.....Dr. West.
Where did he go to Med school?
He could have been board-certified in an area other than plastic surgery. Because plastic surgery is so profitable, many doctors than aren't specialists in plastic surgery (maybe they are specialists in other areas) begin doing plastic surgery. It is like your podiatrist deciding to remove your wisdom tooth, or a dermatologist deciding to do your C-section.
Doctors need to have specific training and experience in the area of work that they are actually going to do on you. Even the guy who is good at giving nose jobs, may not be skilled at tummy tucks.
She should have had her surgery in the hospital and not as an "out patient."
Depending on how complicated the surgery will be, patients can go home the same day if they have a tummy tuck OR a breast reduction. But they should stay in a hospital overnight when both procedures are done at the same time.
A patient needs to be monitored closely after having these combined procedures. The best place to do this is the hospital. Dr. Adams know this. I wonder whose idea it was not to have this done in the hospital.
And Dr. West should have seen an internist--as another doctor requested--to make sure she was in good health before having surgery.
Still, Dr. Adams, the jerk who operated on Dr. West for eight hours (what was he doing all that time???), he gets all the blame for this mess. I hope his license is revoked.
My mouth literally hit the floor when I read this!
I remember him as a member of that male version of the View with Dick Clark, Mario Lopez, and crazy ass Danny Bonaduce.
I'm shocked. This brotha can hang his sh!t up. (I bet it sucks to be a black plastic surgeon right about now).
@ 2:19, go stfu, who the fuck are you. This is a blog, not a academic journal with peer reviewed papers, its gossip bitch. STFD and meditate on that shit, "simple ass" my ass. People show pain in many ways, you may be "conservative", others may need to vent out on why Dr. West ventured into this mess, although anyway you say it we all are feeling this so, your rage at your fellow bloggers is another sign of your pain, now just go and cry fool.
Bottom line boys and girls, stay off of the operating table at all costs. We have become to westernized, "WendyWilliamized". Tummy tuck this, botox inject - here there everywhere. Do you know that botox is actually botchilism poison.
@ 1.5 tit
You even earned a nickname, asswhip. Did you have a nice bo ho (cry), get over yourself.
So, nobody knows where this guy went to medical school?
^^^WTF difference does it make where he went to Medical School. He looks like he's in his 40's or 50's himself, so med school was probably a long time ago. That has absolutely nothing to do with this case. Medical licenses are earned through YEARS of blood, sweat, and tears not to mention $100's of thousands of dollars. I have never heard of this guy before this incident. He was obviously skilled and well-regarded to have been an expert consultant on several shows. As 8:45pm said, many doctors practice in areas other than their original specialties (and are not board certified in those areas), even though 8:45's analogies were off. Maybe something did go wrong during the surgery. Or perhaps Dr. West's prior health history of cardiac problems contributed to her death. Dr. shopping is usually a very bad idea. She could have had complications from the surgery. Not every patient can be saved. Sometimes it is NO ONE's fault when they die. The coroner will take FOREVER to release the results of the inquest.
2:19/2:36 You sound like you have a lot of sexual frustrations to work out what with all the salad tossing references. Perhaps you are reading the wrong board, no?
I'm more suprised that no one has jumped on that fool anon 5:40 for suggesting all blacks can do for him is cut his hair. As a black professional myself I was offended. I guess it's best to ignore the ignorant.
1. Board Certification is not required to perform the procedures Dr. Adams performed on Dr. West.
2. Given her risk factors, Dr. West should have had these procedures performed in a hospital. If she had, she MIGHT still be alive.
(What oftentimes makes elective cosmetic surgery so "affordable" is that most of the procedures may be performed in a doctor's office, rather than a hospital. Assuming that she was not afaraid of hospitals, Dr. West's decision not to go that route may have cost her her life.)
3. As above, Dr. Adams should have insisted that Dr. West be hospitalized—assuming he knew of her risk factors—for his own protection, as well as hers.
4. If complications encountered during surgery resulted in the increased time (8 hours vs. the expected 4), then again, post-surgical hospitalization seems mandatory.
5. Dr. West was learned, accomplished and a very determined woman, according to many accounts. It's very difficult to prevent people of that type from getting what they want.
His ass is grass. he going down faster than the Dr that prescribed Anna Nicole 8000 pills.
He went to Harvard Medical school.
Stay natural people. Unless you look like the elephant man, stay away!!!!
My mother was considering this doctor to do her cosmetic surgery. But she'd rather be alive and saggy. So sorry dude. You just lost one. I am so sorry to hear about the misfortune of Donda's passing. Truly that must hurt alot. After all he was like brother and sister tight with his mother. Massive vomiting? wow.
glad that i had a white/italian doc to do my breast i love my people but i will never have a black doctor in this day and age. straight out of newport beach fashion island with the rest of the housewives of orange county not marina del rey down the street from inglewood,ca with all that bullshit
1:50 ^^^
What do you mean by black? There are black Indians, Black Dominicans, Black Italians and alot of darker people. Stop being a ignorant poop face.
I feel sorry for Mr. West loss. I am very close to my mom and losing her would be so hard. Now as for responsibility I have had plastic surgery and if the doctor told me that I could not have the surgery because of my health I would NOT have done it. She went to different doctor because becuase she wanted it. She did not take care of herself. Did she even check his credentials. You have to these days everybody is preforming plastic surgery. When I did my researchs I found some quacks out there. Once again I am sorry that this woman lost her life for vanity. When I had my surgery I told everybody that I loved them becuase I knew that I could die to.
Those of us who know Dr. Adams well have an informed opinion. Well, he has always seemed more interested in drinking, partying, skirt chasing, and Hollywood fame than anything else. He did train in General Surgery and in Plastic SUrgery but NEVER EVER passed either an annual inservice examination or a board certification exam as far as I know. My direct observations have left me with the opinion that he has always been lazy and arrogent insofar as his medical and surgical practices. He is a perfect example of one who has gone incredibly far based on charisma more than anything else (including knowlege, hard accomplishments, tangible successes, acceptable test scores, moral clarity, etc. etc. etc.) I know the Dr. and my opinions are well founded and all based on direct personal experience.
run nigga..run.
I've got to agree with "how u doin"
everyone has insecurities.So I guess that lays to rest the pompous attitude the West family has projected to the media.
Dr.Jan is probably in S.America somewhere cause they are gonna bury him
Why should we give a shit anyway?
Her reasoning to have the surguries is irrelevant. Ones reasoning is ones choice.
If he was "certified" he should have asked her for her medical history, an authorized copy and requested the recommendations from her other opinions given her age. This would have prevented this from happening or his name would have not been involved. He needs to take accountibility, because he is accountable. Dr. Phil isn't board certified, so that isn't required to have a show. He's got a history of malpractice issues. I dont know why she went to him. I guess thats something their family and the public will always wonder.
Co-signing with 5:40pm. We never get it as black professionals and even business owners. yeah, you may have the knowledge to open a business and even the good sense to get a medical degree in the USA but it is only the beginning of your hard work, continous education and so forth. We have the attitude that I am the boss now so I have made it. Then when someone points out our obvious faults, shortcomings and failures we are offended. The man should have been studying for exams and working hard to build his skills and so forth. I truly believe the informed opinion as well. He messed up bad.
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